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How do you choose mods to help you out? by District_10in modclub

[–]aenea 0 points1 point ago

A lot depends on the subreddit, how large it is, what we're looking for (time zone coverage, css skills, introducing new guidelines, etc) and how 'sensitive' it is. Generally I look for their contributions to that specific subreddit- whether they submit links, and participate in discussions for a reasonable length of time, or if I've seen them do a good job moderating other subreddits, or have had interactions with them outside of reddit and know that they're fairly trustworthy.

There's not usually a lot of damage that a 'new' mod can do if you have decent time zone coverage- the worst that they're likely to do is piss a few people off for a couple of hours before someone does damage control. When I've been looking for new mods in mental health subreddits we tend to be pretty stringent (now, after a few very bad experiences)...it's not fair to subscribers to add someone who can't be trusted with real life information.

It all depends on the subreddit, I think. Some people that I never would have picked have turned out to be great mods.

Modlog statistics in /r/EarthPorn for the last 30 days. by syncreticin TheoryOfReddit

[–]aenea 7 points8 points ago

There is a reason we haven't had a single witch hunt since the creation of the network, and that reason is trust.

I'd disagree on that- I think that the major reason you haven't had a witch hunt yet is relatively small numbers (your 'flagship' has under 100,000), combined with luck. Witch hunts don't depend on anything rational or anything that mods do or don't do- they happen because someone makes a comment or complaint at the 'wrong' time, it hits in a large subreddit, and it takes off before anyone can get a handle on it. How many witch hunts can you think of that could have been forestalled by a public mod log? Even Saydrah wasn't really done for until /iama hung her out to dry, after supporting her moderation decisions.

A fully public moderation log would only strengthen the trust we have with our userbase. Users would be able to see exactly what submissions were removed, and if they check the comments of those submissions, they will see why they were removed, because a moderator will have left a comment.

To some extent I think that you are right, and I have always advocated for strong communication between moderators and their subreddits. Most of reddit doesn't even seem to understand what moderators actually 'do'...they seem to have an idea that mods are Zeus wildly pitching thunderbolts at anyone who disagrees with them, and masturbating with excitement when they ban a user. In my opinion that trust is better fostered through clear guidelines for that subreddit combined with semi-transparent moderation (I'm not really a fan of letting spammers know that everything they posted is banned).

But a one or two month modlog of bans and approvals often has very little to do with what a lot of moderators actually 'do'. For a long time RedGPz and I were the 'primary' mods in /suicidewatch (in terms of time spent, which was easily hours every single day). Neither of us spent much time on approving or banning submissions or comments, because we were spending a lot of time getting actual individuals help, and other mods were willing to take up that slack while we arranged actual care for the people who posted there. Other mods knew that, but if the 'modlogs' were made public then we would have seemed like dead weight. We weren't.

And at that point both q and max were 'head mods' of /suicidewatch, and rarely participated in terms of day to day subreddit maintenance, but they were there when we really needed them to step in (rogue mod, needing admin clarification or help on a legal issue when the admins wouldn't answer a 'regular' mod (at least q and max could try!), etc). I'd still want q or max as moderators on my subreddit even if they never looked at it, because sometimes there are things that matter more than who bans what.

Stats are fun, and it's interesting to see which mods are high in daily participation. For my part I think that I'm doing a good job if mods that I've added have higher 'stats' than I do, because that means that I'm doing something right for that subreddit.

It would be interesting to see if those stats line up with those mods' actual participation in the subreddit- do they also participate in discussions, submit links, interact with users, etc? Would you rather have a mod who bans people, or who looks after the queue and submits interesting things, or participates in discussions?

I've also been in subreddits where we've recruited 'mods' for specific jobs- dealing with CSS, etc. They never dealt with the modqueue, because that wasn't what they were asked to do.

Stats are fun, if they are put in context.

List of Geographical Subreddits. by Factranin ModsOfTheRealms

[–]aenea 1 point2 points ago

We've recently been expanding and re-doing the /canada sidebar, and there are a lot of new region-based subreddits that aren't on that list.

If all the Mods met up, where would be the ideal spot? by tunackin ModsOfTheRealms

[–]aenea 4 points5 points ago

I'm going to be in Tasmania in 3 years to meet up with a few other redditors...it's not cheap, but I think that it's going to be well worth while.

If all the Mods met up, where would be the ideal spot? by tunackin ModsOfTheRealms

[–]aenea 4 points5 points ago

At my house. Because I'm pretty busy with family issues most of the time, and I'm a very good cook who likes feeding people :-)

Realistically (assuming that not everyone's interested in making the trip to Southern Ontario), Las Vegas. Even though I have no desire to ever go there, it's a $99 flight from almost anywhere in North America, with dirt-cheap hotel rooms. There are also a lot of redditors who seem to be able to get very good deals on LV bookings, so it might end up being the cheapest for everyone. I don't know what flights from Europe/Asia/Australia would be like, but it seems to be one of the cheaper places to get to.

Welcome to r/ModsOfTheRealms by greatyellowsharkin ModsOfTheRealms

[–]aenea 2 points3 points ago

I'm aenea, and a mod of /canada among other subreddits. I don't think that it's unreasonable to say that /canada's really a great subreddit to moderate- it's a fairly good size for a 'regional' subreddit, and it's not really big on drama. That's a big plus, in my opinion :-)

I think that this subreddit is a great idea- not only do I think that it's often helpful for moderators in general to talk to and learn from each other, but I think that there are some issues that pop up in 'regional' subreddits that aren't as apparent in issue-specific subreddits. /canada's a fairly big place, and also covers a wide range of interests from the geographical to the political to the very mundane and amusing. It's often pretty easy to figure out what a subreddit's 'mandate' should be when it's issue specific, but it's often a bit more cloudy when you're talking about a geographical area. I'd like to have some discussion with other country based subreddits to find out how they deal with that issue.

/canada has links to many other location-based subreddits on our sidebar- provincial, city based, regional, colleges/universities, etc. I think that most of those moderators read r/canada, so if you'd like to post a link for this subreddit on /canada, please message the mods and we'll try to figure out the best time so that your post will be seen. I'd say that posting a link on a morning weekday, and a weekend afternoon would likely cover your bases. We're in the midst of some changes there, so although I'd be happy to have a sidebar link for this subreddit as a help to other regional mods, it may well get lost in the shuffle at the moment.

Cheers, and thanks for adding me :-)

Fix for Chrome / YouTube crashing. by dont_be_an_arsein self

[–]aenea 1 point2 points ago

Mine started last week, and it was only yesterday that I figured out what it was. I've uninstalled Shockwave, gotten rid of the flash plug-ins completely, done the youtube html 5 thing, uninstalled and reinstalled chrome, and now I'm just using firefox and thinking about re-formatting, as performance is so degraded now it's more of a pain in the ass to be online than to pick up a good book.

Apparently it's been going on for 3 years now- google finally said yesterday that they're now working on a fix, so with any luck that will be available soon.

What a pain in the ass.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea 0 points1 point ago

Thank you- we will.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea 0 points1 point ago

I agree, but I can't see it happening. It's been suggested many times, but I don't think that reddit will ever institute it.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea 1 point2 points ago

That's not really partisan though, that's anti-semitic, and as such is worth a warning followed by a banning for continued use.

You're right, and that was a poor example.

I have to agree with kinohead, partisan is a slippery slope and one overzealous mod could cause a shitstorm.

I certainly understand your concerns. I think that in /canada we have some safeguards against a mod going rogue for more than an hour or two. There isn't anything that anyone can do to prevent against that, as to some extent when someone is made a mod, if no other mods are around that are higher on the 'mod tree' than they are, they can run amok until someone more 'senior' comes in.

But in /canada I think that we do have a bit of a proven safety record in terms of moderator actions. None of us are perfect, and we've all made stupid calls on occasion, but they're usually corrected fairly quickly. qgyh2 founded the subreddit, and although he's not really an 'active' mod here, I've worked with him in a number of different subreddits and it's very helpful to have a 'senior' mod to back you up when you need it. I've been the most active mod here almost since it was created, and I'm a huge fan of consensus- with few exceptions, moderators don't act by themselves when it comes to setting policy, bannings, etc. We 'vet' mods before we ask them to join, to make sure that they're on board with the goals of the subreddit, don't have a history of banning out of pique, etc. So far that's worked pretty well, as we provide each other with reality checks, and usually work things out by consensus. As individuals we all do stupid things on occasion, but as a group, /canada's been remarkably stable, to say the least.

That hasn't been the case in some of the subreddits that I've moderated- i was a mod in /iama for one of the first major mod meltdowns (the MMM mess), and we had a mod go rogue in /suicidewatch, which was not only 'dangerous' to the community, but to individuals. I never want to be in that position again, to say the least, which is why we've tried to build the mod team here to act through consensus, and reality checks from each other. We're definitely not perfect, but I think the chances of an overzealous mod doing a lot of damage for more than a few hours is fairly small.

One of the things that I think is going to be useful in terms of moderator accountability to their community is to have a public moderator log. I've got my issues with it (I think that it's going to make spammers more aware of how quickly they're banned, which is going to defeat that whole purpose), and I'm not sure that showing individual moderator actions is actually safe for the moderator, at times. We've certainly all seen reddit witch hunts, and my desire to be accountable to the /canada community is definitely secondary to keeping my family safe.

But I think that when /canada can see what it is that we actually 'do' on a daily basis as moderators, there's going to be a lot less concern and mistrust. Most of my time as a moderator (except for things like this, which happen once or twice a year) is spent just clearing out the spam filter, and checking reported links/comments (I probably spend about an hour a day doing that). Of the two of those, reported links take the most time, because it's usually unclear as to why they are reported. We know that every once in a while someone goes on a tear and just reports everything that they disagree with (which is usually what's on the front page), and it takes time to check all of those and make sure that it's a valid 'report', or not.

That's not always the case- /canada's generally pretty consistent in reporting truly offensive or off-topic posts or comments, and it doesn't take long for each of those. I'd say that less than 10% of what I see in reported or the spam filter are things that really need a judgment call- it's pretty obvious.

When we (as mods) do have to make a judgment call, it's generally done through consensus. In the time that /canada's been around, there have been 31 usernames banned, of which six were duplicates (same username, with a number of letter after them). So, we've really only banned 25 people a year, which isn't a lot for a community this size. There are a few other usernames that we keep an eye on- people who regularly participate in the community, but who go on an asshole run every few months. We can usually pm those people and say "why not take a weekend off, and come back when you've cooled down', and they usually do. If they don't, we temporarily ban them for 2-3 days, and then life goes on. Most of the time those users come back.

As mods I also think that we're fairly responsive to the community- we try to answer mod mail promptly, and deal with reports/spam at least a few times a day. I don't get to participate in /canada threads as much as I'd like to, but we do try to keep an eye on what's going on.

One of the reasons why we're trying to clarify /canada's mandate or focus right now is out of feedback that we've gotten from the community. I think that we can take it as a given that no one likes change, but certainly over the last six months or so we've had increasing complaints (from all sides) about the quality of submissions and content. I think that to a large part that's reddit-wide...hence the attempt at TheRepublicOfReddit, new guidelines in /politics, /pics, /askscience etc. Whenever an online community grows that quickly, and that large, there are growing pains, and many of the larger communities are trying to work that out.

I'm really not a mod that thinks that my 'position' is all about power, and I don't know too many long-term mods who do. Our 'power' is mostly limited to banning people, and that's actually pretty pointless, as it takes about 30 seconds to create a new account. Setting up guidelines or mandates (or tweaking those that already exist) is in my mind part of moderators protecting and enabling themselves and the community, because I think that everyone's happier when there's some clarity. I also think that it's possible that the mod team should be more consistently clear that we welcome help and input and discussion- we don't need a 20 person mod team, but as mods become more or less active there's certainly room for new blood, and if people don't want to moderate there are other ways that they can help.

I can certainly understand your concerns about overzealous mods, but I think that for the most part they'd have a difficult time in /canada doing any lasting damage. I could certainly be proved wrong, but I think that guidelines actually help to guard against that, rather than encouraging it.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea 1 point2 points ago

but would assume all parties engage in it to some degree.

That's certainly been my impression. It's often difficult to tell who is just spamming, who is astro-turfing, and who is flooding the subreddit with articles about 'their' party because they're very passionate about it. In the long run they're handled the same way, and it's not always one party that's doing it.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 2 points3 points ago

The Tim Hortons thing wasn't supposed to be in there- it was mistakenly posted before the final edit was done, and that was a joke from me to the other mods. Images about Tim Hortons will still be allowed, and that won't be included the next time we post it (tomorrow, I think).

One or two formal warnings would be nice before a ban.

I agree. And I think that having a warning in the thread as well is a good idea.

Hopefully soon moderator decisions will soon be completely transparent, as it looks like soon we'll be able to make the moderator log public. I think that might cut down on some people's concerns.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 2 points3 points ago

Report them, and message the moderators to let us know who they are.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 3 points4 points ago

There's no way to remove the downvote button. You can make it invisible, so that people who have styles enabled can't see it, but that doesn't hide it from everyone. Most of the subreddits where that is done have often seen a rise in the number of downvotes.

A few people have suggested putting reminders beside the arrows as to what they're for, and we're going to look into that.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 5 points6 points ago

Does "insult" refer specifically to statements made towards other redditors?

Yes, we are talking about specific insults. I wrote above

The type of "Partisan insults" that I'm thinking of are ones that we see pretty often- things like "Another brilliant move by the Harper government. Probably hoping they can make up for it with all the Jewgolds they'll get from their Zionist overlords."

Insults directed to those on the left-wing usually involve some variation of cock-sucker (or faggot), pot-smoker libtard. It's the same type of insults that we have been banning all along.

Are news articles satirizing the government acceptable? Are memes or images with similar content forbidden?

Yes, and no.

None of us have any interest in being heavy-handed, or abusing our 'privelege' (which, as always, mainly consists of cleaning out the spam filter). It looks like soon we're going to be able to have a public moderator log, so any of the decisions that we do make will be clearly visible to the community. That's going to be a good thing, I think.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 0 points1 point ago

So the question is, is this just cleaning up some issues that should be cleaned up, or is it a declaration of intent.

I don't think that /canada is ever going to be 'fair and balanced' (not least because of the demographic), and there wouldn't be any point in having that as a goal. We can try to tone down the ugly rhetoric a bit, so that people can have reasonable discussions. I don't think that anyone wants this to look like the CBC comment section, and that seems to be the direction that it's been heading.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 5 points6 points ago

A couple of people have suggested putting 'reminders' beside the arrows, as some of the other subreddits do. We're going to look into that.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea 2 points3 points ago

Especially during and prior to the election, there seemed to be some astro-turfing going on. They are treated as spammers.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 4 points5 points ago

This was posted before editing was complete- somehow an early draft got posted rather than a later one. The complete draft will be posted tomorrow, and likely over the weekend.

One of the things that we're asking for is a bilingual moderator, so that we can do things like post this in French. It's embarrassing that we don't yet have a French-speaking moderator.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 4 points5 points ago

I couldn't agree more.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 2 points3 points ago

I'm a bit confused by the Tim Horton's thing.

Don't be, as it's not going to be a part of the final draft. This was posted accidentally before editing was complete, and a reference to my long-standing personal dislike of image posts on reddit. It was supposed to be a joke directed at people who knew me, definitely not policy. It will be taken out of the next thread.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 3 points4 points ago

It is, from both sides, although we've really seen relatively little of it. It was more evident in the months leading up to the election.

Generally it's fairly easy to identify, so they're just treated as spammers.

Changes coming to r/Canada. A message from the moderators. by XLIIin canada

[–]aenea[M] 5 points6 points ago

Partisan insults? Seems like a slippery slope.

It certainly could be, but we are going to take pains to not go overboard, and hopefully soon we'll have a public moderator log so that everyone can see exactly what we do.

The type of "Partisan insults" that I'm thinking of are ones that we see pretty often- things like "Another brilliant move by the Harper government. Probably hoping they can make up for it with all the Jewgolds they'll get from their Zionist overlords."

We're not expecting that everyone on the right/left are going to start getting along, but some of the angry name-calling could be toned down.

If you are considering cutting,please contact me,i want to listen ♥ by IIBlaKOptiX26IIin StopSelfHarm

[–]aenea 0 points1 point ago

The above wasn't directed at you- I'd banned an unpleasant comment above mine. I'm glad that you're dong better, and thank you for offering to help others.

Is Wheel of Time worth reading? by Wizardof1000Kingsin Fantasy

[–]aenea 6 points7 points ago

Which characters would you consider fully developed? I stopped reading at book 9 or 10, because I'd finally just had it with the characters. I know that Nynaeve's braid-tugging has become a joke, but he really does seem to pick one or two qualities per person, and stick with them, from beginning to end. Rand has the personality of a block of wood- the things that happen to him are interesting, but how he reacts to them isn't. He does everything exactly the way that you'd expect from how his character was first presented.

I think that he's pretty good at world-building (if you can ignore things like hay bales in a pre-industrial society), and does a decent job of plotting. I'm well able to commit to getting through a few bad books to get to the end of a series that I like. But I found that the characters were almost universally annoying, and stupidly one-dimensional. None of the couples make sense unless you assume that they're all idiots or have the emotional and sexual maturity of toddlers (most of us stop hitting people to show that we like them at least by the time puberty strikes), and I finally gave up when I just wanted to see them all die.

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