Are static mockups offline web pages?

redelman431 · 3 days

Yeah, this sounds right -- or, perhaps, an HTML/CSS version of the page without the "dynamic" database part hooked up.

Either way, I think they mean proof-of-design-concept, basically.

DistortedGuest · 2 months

For folks living in NM-1, check out Eric Griego.

For folks in CT-05, Chris Donovan.

NH-02? Annie Kuster?

Massachusetts? Elizabeth Warren

WA-01? Darcy Burner

Pay attention to your down ballot races people!

bishop1847 · 2 months

No worries, I think it's an interesting discussion. I'm more of a front end person myself, but I can see how you could apply the same arguments to things like Django. Maybe I'm out of my depth here, but it does seem to me like Twitter Bootstrap is a more blunt instrument with respect to front-end design than Django or Rails is to backend design, however.

Another point -- I think things like Twitter Bootstrap have their places, chiefly as the name implies. If you're bootstrapping a project, doing a hackathon, making a proof-of-concept, Bootstrap seems appropriate. But for code you're shipping, for projects that are meant to actually be used by real users, you're doing yourself a disservice by using Bootstrap as opposed to even starting with a lighter framework (say, a CSS grid) but also putting thought into how a user will work with what you've built.

bishop1847 · 2 months

Sure, this is probably true. I guess I feel that a dev that doesn't take the time to think through design -- I'm not saying you have to be an artist, but just have to care enough to think about how a user will use your work -- isn't so much a lazy dev as a bad dev.

gmoney1393 · 2 months

I'm actually using this exact product to toilet train my cat -- almost done! Decent buy!

bishop1847 · 2 months

I think this article misses the point -- at least my point as to why Twitter Bootstrap isn't a good tool.

To me, Twitter Bootstrap encourages developers who don't want to think about front-end design to believe that this point of view is acceptable. It's not. Every app doesn't need to be its own unique CSS, but developers should realize you can't separate design from usability, user experience, and ultimately core functionality of your app.

Therein lies the issue -- design is functionality. Functionality is design. And using Twitter Bootstrap obscures that and makes it "ok" to graft on design to your app after you've finished the functionality, when really, you shouldn't be building functionality without building design at the same time.

The result isn't a web where everything looks like Twitter, it's a web where developers have shoehorned their own unique apps with unique functionality into the big user interface buckets Twitter Bootstrap gives you, instead of using the more fine-grained tools of CSS, HTML, and javascript to create functionality/design that works best.

lurker_becomes_lurkd · 2 months

I think so, yes, though I'd imagine implementation depends on the email reader.

Google Groups, when they send daily digest emails, for instance, uses named anchors.

adambard · 2 months

I've always thought that would be an awesome haircut. Clearly, it is.

bleudchanel · 3 months

$40 a year is good, depending on reliability. For really low traffic sites, I've used iPower in the past (~$7/month). For larger sites, I generally go with Media Temple shared hosting (~$20/month).

ImMewt · 3 months

deathwebo · 3 months

Big fan of Slidedeck

mtx · 3 months

Mark me down as not liking the bootstrap model. For bootstrapped projects (ie. projects that are public, but not necessarily enterprise-class) I guess saving time on front end coding makes sense. But for anything beyond a hack-a-thon type situation, I think code like this hurts more than it helps.

Design, front end coding, HTML, CSS, and javascript should follow the function of your application or website, which is as unique as your core functionality and content (ie. very). Shoving your unique ideas into broad design buckets, as tools like this ask you to do, hampers your design, and then ultimately your functionality. It's hard to present information in its optimal way using blunt tools like this.

Use tools like this a bit, and your designs may make less sense. Use them a lot, and you'll forget how to design well in the first place. Also, then every website looks the same, and like twitter, and who wants that?

My advice is if you're making websites, write your own front end. A standard toolset can help, but tools like this take that idea too far. In the end, it will hamper what you're trying to accomplish with your design.

My two cents...

[edit to add another thought]

godbois · 3 months

Coda -- web development + FTP

kn0thing · 4 months

Good on you for taking the time to go. Tip for next time: Do what you need to do to get a chance to speak (ie. say you agree to their conditions), then speak your mind.

DrJulianBashir · 5 months

reddit just linked to a way to get involved in the sidebar -- check it out:

http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/survey_sopa_reddit/?source=reddit3

Sachiano · 6 months

Haven't dug deep, but Firebug brings up two console errors:

Modernizr is not defined [Break On This Error] Modernizr.load({ /scora.../final/ (line 124)

uncaught exception: Syntax error, unrecognized expression: [@rel*=lightbox]

My guess is your problems are related to those.

Positronic_Matrix · 6 months

Vote up, folks! Thought I founded this subreddit, I as well find myself with other obligations, so very much looking for talented and committed folks to help out.

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